Woman Unsure Whether to Have Down's Syndrome Screening At All — Free SCA Practice Case
Woman unsure whether to have Down's syndrome screening at all
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Full Name
Rukhsana Mirza
Age
37 years
Consultation Type
TelephoneAge
37
Situation
Telephone Consultation.
Reason for Encounter
"Ten weeks pregnant. Midwife needs my decision about Down's syndrome screening before my scan. Not sure I want it and would like to talk it through."
Medical Records
- ●PMH: Unexplained subfertility. IVF, own eggs. Miscarriage at 6 weeks a year ago. Current pregnancy from frozen embryo transfer; 7 week scan showed a heartbeat.
- ●Medications: Folic acid, vitamin D, progesterone pessaries.
- ●Allergies: NKDA.
- ●Social: Planning officer. Non smoker.
Recent Notes
- ●Midwife booking, one week ago: Booking bloods taken, including infection and sickle cell screening. Dating scan in two weeks.
Patient Script
For the friend playing the patient role
Character Overview: You are Rukhsana Mirza, a 37 year old planning officer at the county council, married to Naveed, 39, a supply chain analyst. You are thoughtful, dry and a little tired, and the leaflet and Naveed's links have left you more muddled.
You are ten weeks pregnant after three years of trying. You started IVF two years ago with your own eggs and no cause was ever found. The first transfer failed. The second ended in a miscarriage at 6 weeks, a year ago, which you still find hard to talk about. This is the third transfer. The 7 week scan showed a heartbeat and you have only just started to let yourself believe in it.
At booking last week you said yes to the infection and sickle cell blood tests without a second thought, but told the midwife you were undecided about Down's screening. You rang the surgery because the midwife team only offer call backs and you wanted someone who is not Naveed and is not selling anything to tell you straight what you would be agreeing to.
You do not want a lecture or to be pushed, or for the doctor to decide for you. You want honest, plain answers and half hope to be told it is fine to say no. You do not volunteer your reasons, beliefs or the thing you have not told Naveed until asked.
Opening Sentence: "Hi, thanks for ringing. I'm ten weeks pregnant and the midwife wants me to decide whether to have the Down's screening before my scan. I honestly don't think I want it, because whatever it showed I'd never end this pregnancy, so I can't see the point. But my husband wants every test going, so I thought I'd better talk it through with someone properly."
History if Asked (Data Gathering Phase)
- ●What she has been told and has read: "I've read the leaflet twice. It's all very careful and doesn't say whether I should. I came away knowing less than when I started."
- ●What she thinks the test and a normal result mean: "A normal result means the baby's fine? And the test is to let people decide whether to carry on, mainly, so I thought it wasn't meant for me."
- ●What she thinks happens if she says yes: "Once you say yes to the first bit, they carry on to the next test and the next, and you're on a conveyor belt and can't get off."
- ●Where she is in the NHS pathway: "Booking last week. I said yes to the infection and sickle cell bloods. The scan's in two weeks and the midwife wants my Down's answer before then. Nothing's been done privately."
- ●What her husband wants and the private test: "Everything. The NHS test and the private one as well. He's got a spreadsheet. He's not bullying me, he's frightened, and when he's frightened he researches." The private test: "A few hundred pounds. It covers Down's and other chromosome things, tells you the sex, and Naveed keeps quoting that it's ninety nine per cent accurate. We haven't booked it."
- ●Why Naveed is so keen, if asked: "His best friend Dev's little boy Kiran was born with Down's syndrome and they had no idea beforehand. Naveed was at the hospital that night. Dev says the first weeks were awful because they weren't ready. Naveed never wants to be that unprepared."
- ●What she knows about Down's syndrome, if asked: "Only Kiran. He's three, lovely and funny, and they adore him. But I don't know what it's like day to day, or in twenty years. What would it actually mean for a child?"
- ●Whether she feels free to decide, and whether they have talked about a result: "Yes, he's said it's my decision, but in a way that makes it sound like there's only one sensible answer. We've not talked properly about what we'd do after a result. We keep stepping round it."
- ●How she is coping, if asked: "Anxious all the time. I check for blood every time I go to the loo, after last time. I'm not low, just on edge."
Ideas, Concerns, Expectations
Gating note: Rukhsana does not raise any of these herself. Each part comes out only when the doctor asks what she thinks, what is worrying her, or what she is hoping for. The part about Naveed comes out only when the doctor asks what she thinks he would want, what makes the conversation hard, or how it feels to be stepping round it, and is said quietly.
- ●Ideas: She thinks screening exists mainly so that people can decide whether to end a pregnancy, that a "clear" result means the baby is definitely well, and that saying yes sets off a chain of further tests. She did not know she could choose which conditions to screen for.
- ●Concerns: A higher chance result that turns out to be nothing: weeks of terror when she has only just started to believe in this pregnancy. Being swept along a path she did not choose. "What if it says high chance and then it's fine? I'd have spent weeks in bits for nothing." On Naveed: "I think, if something was wrong, he might not want to carry on. He's never said that. He just says things about Dev like 'I don't know how they cope'. I can't have that conversation. If I never find out, I never have to hear it." She does not want Naveed told what she has said.
- ●Expectations: Plain answers about what each part of the screening would and would not tell her, whether it is really all right to say no, and what happens if she says yes. "I'm hoping you'll say it's fine to say no. But I also want to be told if I'm being daft."
If Asked: Medical History, Medications and Social History
Gating note: Rukhsana answers direct questions in everyday words.
- ●Pregnancy and IVF: "Ten weeks by the clinic's dates. Just tired and a bit sick in the mornings. Three years of trying, then IVF for two, my own eggs, and no reason ever found. One earlier pregnancy, a year ago, ended at six weeks."
- ●Family, conditions, medicines, allergies: "Nothing in the family. My sister's got two boys, both fine. I'm well. Folic acid, vitamin D and the clinic's pessaries. No allergies. No smoking, no drink since the IVF started."
- ●Home and support: Lives with Naveed, no children yet. Her sister and mum are close, but she has not discussed the screening with either.
- ●Why she rang: "The midwife was lovely but she's got ten minutes and a form to fill in. It's all I think about, and Naveed and I have the same conversation on a loop."
- ●Symptoms: No bleeding or pain. Mild morning sickness. Sleeping badly from worrying. No thoughts of self harm. No fear at home: "Naveed would never. He just goes quiet and sends me links."
Responses to Management (The Negotiation Phase)
- ●If the doctor explains what the test involves and that it gives a chance, not a diagnosis:
- ●Reaction: Relieved at first. "Oh. So it's just a blood test and the neck measurement on the scan I'm having anyway?" Then exasperated: "So even if it comes back fine it isn't a promise, and if it comes back badly it still isn't definite? What's the point?"
- ●If the doctor explains her choices, including declining and changing her mind:
- ●Reaction: Surprised. "I didn't know I could pick. Could I say no without being marked down as difficult? And I can change my mind if I wobble?" If told the combined test is available until about fourteen weeks: "So I'm not shutting the door."
- ●If the doctor gives a view on whether to screen:
- ●Reaction: If told there is no point because she would continue: uneasy. "Naveed will say you've just told me what I wanted to hear." If told she should because of her age or her husband: defensive. "Is that because I'm thirty seven? I didn't ring to be told what to do." If told some women who would continue still choose it to prepare: "I hadn't thought of it as separate. But I don't think I could cope with a false alarm."
- ●If the doctor explains higher chance results, what could follow, or private tests:
- ●Reaction: "How many is most? What are the actual numbers?" She is steadier with a figure and its meaning. On a definite test: "How likely is that one to cause a miscarriage?" On hearing 1 in 200: "That's low, but it's this baby. I'd never risk that. At least I'd know I could say no to that bit." On private tests: "So it's still only screening? Naveed will ask why we shouldn't do both."
- ●If the doctor asks about life with Down's syndrome, how they are deciding, or offers to speak to Naveed:
- ●Reaction: She listens closely to an honest, balanced answer and is put off by pity or false cheer. On what they would do: hesitant, saying more only if the doctor is gentle. If the doctor suggests they talk first: "I know. I've been avoiding it." If offered a call with Naveed: "Yes, but I'd want to be on the line, and please don't tell him I'm scared about what he might want." If the doctor offers to ring him without her or tell him what she has said: "No, please don't. I'd rather say it myself when I'm ready."
- ●If the doctor sets out her choices without telling her what to do, or gives next steps:
- ●Reaction: She asks directly: "If it were you, honestly, would you do it?" She respects an honest answer that it depends on her values and gives her a way of working it out, and is frustrated by a flat refusal or a firm instruction. On time: "How long have I got? Who do I tell, and is it a phone call or do I just say at the scan?" On a support charity: "I don't want anyone pushing me one way or the other." Vague advice such as "let us know if you have questions": "Questions to who, though? The midwife only does call backs." Once a plan is agreed: "Can I have the website or the number written down?"
Mark Scheme
Domain 1: Data Gathering and Diagnosis
Domain 2: Clinical Management and Medical Complexity
Domain 3: Relating to Others
Clinical Learning Points
The Decision and the Model Plan
- ●Rukhsana is ten weeks pregnant after IVF and has been asked to decide on screening for Down's, Edwards' and Patau's syndromes before her dating scan. The skill is non directive counselling: explaining accurately what screening is and is not, setting out every choice including declining, and supporting her to decide without steering her.
- ●NICE NG201 says the midwife should offer the infectious disease, sickle cell and thalassaemia, and fetal anomaly screening programmes and tell the woman she can accept or decline any part. The NHS Fetal Anomaly Screening Programme (FASP) asks for a personal informed choice.
- ●Model plan: explore her understanding and fears, explain the test and what a result means, set out all choices and timings, answer "why screen if I would continue", put the private test in context, help the couple talk, give written information and support, offer a follow up call. Accepting, declining and accepting only part are all good outcomes if the choice is informed and hers.
What the NHS Offers and When
- ●The combined test looks for Down's syndrome (trisomy 21), Edwards' syndrome (trisomy 18) and Patau's syndrome (trisomy 13). It combines her age with a blood test (from 10 weeks) and the nuchal translucency measurement at the dating scan, between 11 weeks 2 days and 14 weeks 1 day (NICE NG201; FASP requires a crown rump length of 45.0 to 84.0 mm).
- ●After that the quadruple blood test (14 weeks 2 days to 20 weeks) screens for Down's syndrome only and is less accurate. Edwards' and Patau's syndromes are then looked for at the 20 week scan.
- ●She can choose all three conditions, Down's syndrome only, Edwards' and Patau's syndromes only, or none, and is given only the results she asked for.
- ●IVF pregnancies are eligible for the combined and quadruple tests and for non invasive prenatal testing (NIPT). The crown rump length is used rather than dates, and IVF is recorded on the request form. For her own eggs her own age is the input.
A Chance, Not a Diagnosis
- ●The FASP cut off is 1 in 150. A lower chance result is 1 in 151 or more (for example 1 in 300) and a higher chance result is 1 in up to 150. About 3 in 100 results are higher chance.
- ●Most women with a higher chance result have a baby without the condition. A lower chance result is not a guarantee, and the NHS leaflet states that screening can give an incorrect result. Screening cannot say which form of the condition a baby has or how severely it would affect the child.
- ●The blood test and the scan carry no known risk to her or the baby.
After a Higher Chance Result
- ●She is contacted within a week and offered an appointment to discuss the result, the condition and her choices: no further testing, NIPT, or a diagnostic test.
- ●NIPT is offered after a higher chance result (1 in 2 to 1 in 150) up to 21 weeks 6 days, including in IVF pregnancies. It is a blood test, safe for the pregnancy, more accurate than the combined test, with results in about 2 weeks, but it is still screening and covers trisomies 21, 18 and 13 only.
- ●Diagnostic tests give a definite answer. Chorionic villus sampling is usually done from 11 to 14 weeks and amniocentesis after 15 weeks. The NHS leaflet gives about 1 in 200 (0.5%) as the chance of miscarriage because of the test.
- ●If a diagnosis is confirmed she can continue the pregnancy or choose a termination, and the team supports either.
The Right to Decline and What Continues
- ●If she declines screening, the rest of her antenatal care continues. Declining part of the programme does not affect any other part, and the choice is documented.
- ●FASP requires that every woman who accepts the dating scan is told unexpected findings may be identified, even if she has declined screening.
- ●She can change her mind while still eligible. If she declines the combined test now but wants screening at 13 weeks, she is still within the window. After about 14 weeks only the quadruple test (Down's syndrome only) remains.
"Why Screen If I Would Never End the Pregnancy?"
- ●The decision to be screened is separate from the decision about what to do with a result, and accepting screening does not commit her to a diagnostic test or any course of action.
- ●Reasons some women choose screening even if they would continue: to prepare emotionally and practically, to plan care and support, to learn about the condition, and to avoid a shock at birth. For Edwards' and Patau's syndromes, where survival beyond the first year is low, knowing may shape how the birth is planned.
- ●Reasons some women decline: not wanting the information, the stress of a false alarm (most higher chance babies are unaffected), and being drawn into further decisions.
- ●Neither choice is the better one. Her age, the IVF history and her husband's preference are not reasons to push her either way.
Private Tests and "Every Test"
- ●Private screening is outside the NHS programme. FASP says to direct a woman considering it to the UK National Screening Committee guidance, and that she should still have a discussion about her NHS options.
- ●No screening test is 100% accurate. Private providers often leave follow up to the individual and the NHS may need to repeat the test. She should ask what the fees cover and what happens after a higher chance result.
- ●NHS NIPT covers only the three trisomies. A private test reporting the baby's sex or other conditions does something the NHS pathway does not, and is still screening.
- ●The 20 week scan (a separate choice) looks for 11 physical conditions and cannot find everything.
When a Couple Disagree
- ●Screening is offered to the pregnant woman and the choice is hers. NICE NG201 recommends discussing care with the woman and her partner, so involving him is good practice, but his preference does not replace her decision.
- ●Here Naveed is anxious, not controlling. If there were fear, pressure or control, NG201 says to ask about domestic abuse sensitively when she can speak privately, and the approach would change.
- ●Offer a practical route: they talk through what each would want after a higher chance result before the scan, supported by a joint call, a screening midwife appointment or ARC. Anything she tells the doctor in confidence is not passed to her husband without her agreement, and contact with him is arranged only if she wants it and she is on the line.
Down's Syndrome, Language and Support
- ●The NHS leaflet states that a person with Down's syndrome will have some level of learning disability. Heart, hearing and vision problems are more common, and many are treatable. Around 5 in 100 babies will not live past their first birthday; most people with Down's syndrome live into their 60s or longer, most say they enjoy their lives, and many work and live semi independently with support. For Edwards' and Patau's syndromes only about 13 in 100 and 11 in 100 live past the first year.
- ●Say "a baby with Down's syndrome". Avoid "abnormal", "defect", "affected" or "suffering from". Give an honest, balanced picture without pity or false cheer.
- ●Antenatal Results and Choices (ARC) gives non directive support (helpline 020 7713 7486, Monday to Friday, 10am to 5.30pm). The NHS pages and the leaflet Screening tests for you and your baby are reliable written sources.
- ●Agree the practical steps: blood test from 10 weeks, dating scan in two weeks, combined test only until about 14 weeks, tell the midwife her choice (or that she is still deciding) before the scan, and offer a follow up call.
Common Mistakes in This Station
- ●Treating the call as persuasion, in either direction, rather than an informed choice.
- ●Telling her there is no point in screening if she would continue, or that she should test because she is 37, had IVF or her husband wants it.
- ●Describing the combined test as a diagnosis, calling NIPT diagnostic, or misstating the miscarriage risk of CVS and amniocentesis.
- ●Not telling her she can choose Down's syndrome only, part or none, that her other care continues if she declines, or when the combined test window closes.
- ●Not saying a private test is still screening, or telling her to buy or avoid one.
- ●Taking Naveed's side, criticising him, offering to ring him without her agreement or reassuring her falsely about what he would say.
- ●Reciting numbers without explaining them, or using alarming or outdated language about Down's syndrome.
- ●Ending with "have a think and let us know" without dates, a way to tell the midwife, written information or support.
Mapped to the RCGP curriculum topic: Maternity and Reproductive Health.
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