Widower with Weight Loss and Poor Sleep — Free SCA Practice Case
Widower with weight loss and poor sleep who is sure it is his stomach
Station Timer
Golden Minute
Initial Introduction
•Introduce yourself
•Ask an open question — "How can I help you today?"
•Listen — don't interrupt
•Catch early cues
Data Gathering
History, ICE & Diagnosis
Clinical Management
Diagnosis, Plan & Decisions
Safety Net
Follow-up & Close
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Materials for Candidate
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Full Name
Clifton Bailey
Age
74 years
Consultation Type
VideoAge
74
Situation
Video Consultation. Routine appointment booked by the patient.
Reason for Encounter
"I have lost a stone in weight and I am not sleeping. I would like a camera test for my stomach."
Medical Records
- ●PMH: Hypertension. Right cataract surgery 4 years ago.
- ●Medications: Amlodipine 5 mg once daily. Allergies: NKDA.
- ●Social: Retired printer. Lives alone. Wife died suddenly at home 9 months ago. Never smoked.
- ●Review 14 months ago: Weight 84 kg (13 stone 3 pounds). BP 136/80. Haemoglobin 143 g/L, eGFR 74, ALT 22, HbA1c 37. No consultations since.
Patient Script
For the friend playing the patient role
Character Overview: You are Clifton Bailey, a 74 year old retired printer. You were married to Beverley for 49 years and she died suddenly at home about nine months ago of a heart attack. You live alone in the house you shared with her. Your daughter Janine, 47, lives 40 minutes away and rings every evening. Your grandsons are Jaden and Isaiah. You have lost about a stone since she died, you are never hungry, you sleep badly, and you have stopped going to your Thursday domino club. At your age, losing weight without trying frightens you, so you have decided something is wrong with your stomach and have come to ask for a camera test. You are a private, polite man brought up not to make a fuss, and not used to talking about feelings. Your voice is quiet and flat, you answer in short plain sentences, and you only warm up when Beverley or Janine come up.
Opening Sentence: "Hello, Doctor. I've lost about a stone since my wife passed, and I'm not sleeping, and I'm sure there's something wrong with my stomach. I'd like you to send me for the camera test, please."
History if Asked (Data Gathering Phase)
- ●Weight loss: "Last time I was weighed at the surgery I was thirteen stone three. On my bathroom scales I'm twelve stone three now." Nearly all of it came off in the last five months. He was not trying.
- ●Appetite and what he eats: "Food tastes of nothing, like cardboard. My stomach feels full all the time, so I'm never hungry. Tea and toast, a tin of soup, and whatever Janine has left in the freezer at night, but I leave half. Beverley did all the cooking. I've never cooked a thing in my life."
- ●Stomach and other symptoms (if asked about pain, discomfort, indigestion, heartburn, swallowing, nausea, vomiting or filling up quickly when he eats): "Honestly, my stomach doesn't hurt and it's not uncomfortable. No indigestion, no heartburn. I can swallow all right, I don't feel sick and I've not been sick. It's not that I fill up once I start. I just don't want it. Something's not right in there."
- ●Negatives (if asked): Bowels regular, no blood or black stools. Up once at night to pass water, no blood or burning. No cough, breathlessness, chest pain, sweats, fevers, lumps or thirst. No dizziness or falls. Dentures fit fine. Pain only in his knees, no back pain.
- ●Mood (only if asked how he is in himself, or about his mood): "I'm not one for talking about feelings. I'd say I feel flat. Heavy. Every day's the same grey and it's sitting on me when I wake up. It's been months."
- ●Interest, crying and energy (if asked): "I used to go to the domino club every Thursday. I haven't been since the funeral. Cecil keeps ringing and I tell him I'm busy. I haven't been to church either." He cried at the funeral and has not been able to since. "I've no get up and go."
- ●Concentration and sleep (if asked): "I read the same bit of the paper four or five times and it won't go in." He lies awake for hours before he drops off, wakes in the early hours and sits in her chair until it is light. About four hours in all.
- ●How he sees himself (if asked about guilt or worth): "I feel I'm no use to anyone."
- ●Beverley's death (if asked about Beverley or how she died): "Her heart. No warning. I was out in the garden one morning and when I came in she was on the kitchen floor. The ambulance couldn't bring her back. I keep thinking, if I'd come in sooner."
Ideas, Concerns, Expectations
Gating note: Clifton raises none of this himself. Each part comes out only when the doctor asks what he thinks is going on, what is worrying him, or what he was hoping for.
- ●Ideas: He is sure it is his stomach, and at his age he fears it is cancer. "The weight's dropping off me and I'm never hungry. I'm seventy four, Doctor. I know what that can mean."
- ●Concerns: He fears it is something serious and that Janine, who lost her mum so suddenly, would lose him too. He fears being told it is his age or his grief and sent home. "I don't want patting on the head and sending home."
- ●Expectations: He wants the camera test quickly. "Have a proper look inside, then we'll know either way."
If Asked: Medical History and Medications
Gating note: Clifton answers each of these plainly when asked.
- ●Health and medicines: Blood pressure and his cataract, nothing else. One tablet a day, paracetamol for his knees now and then. Nothing for sleep. No allergies.
- ●Previous low spirits, or unusually high spirits: "Never in my life."
- ●Family, smoking, drugs: His father had a heart attack at seventy. Nobody in the family has had cancer. Never smoked. No other drugs.
- ●Alcohol: "A small rum before bed two or three nights a week since Beverley died, to help me off."
- ●Memory: "My memory's fine, Doctor. It's the concentration that's gone."
Social History and Lifestyle Impact
- ●Home and family: Janine does his shopping on a Saturday and fills the freezer with meals. "She's got enough on, with the boys and her job."
- ●Friends and routine: Cecil from the domino club phones and calls round. He gets up, washes, dresses and sits. No money worries.
If Asked: Associated Symptoms
Gating note: Clifton answers only the question actually asked and volunteers none of this. A question only about harming himself gets a plain "no". Any question about life not being worth living, not wanting to wake up, ending his life or suicide gets the honest answer below. He mentions the medicines only if asked about tablets or anything in the house he could use.
- ●If asked only whether he would harm himself: "No. I'd never harm myself."
- ●If asked about life not being worth living, not wanting to wake up, being better off dead or suicide: "I'll be honest with you, Doctor. Some nights I lie there and think I wouldn't mind if I didn't wake up. I think about being with her. It's been more these last few months."
- ●If asked about a plan, how, when, or previous attempts: "No. I've never thought about how and I wouldn't do anything. I wouldn't do that to Janine and the boys, and I was brought up in the church."
- ●If asked about tablets, or anything in the house he could use: "There's a carrier bag of Beverley's medicines in the bedroom cabinet. Her strong painkillers for her hip, her sleeping tablets, her blood pressure tablets. I haven't been able to take them back to the chemist. I haven't touched them and I won't."
- ●If asked what keeps him going: "Janine rings every night at half past seven. The boys come on a Sunday sometimes. I couldn't do it to them."
- ●If asked the PHQ9 questions: "nearly every day" for little interest, feeling down, sleep, tiredness and appetite, "more than half the days" for feeling a failure and concentration, "not at all" for slowed down or restless, and "several days" for thoughts he would be better off dead.
Responses to Management (The Negotiation Phase)
- ●If the doctor says a camera test is not the first step:
- ●Reaction: Pushes back. "But it's my stomach that's wrong, Doctor. I can't eat. Are you saying I'm making it up?" He settles if his worry is taken seriously and he is told what will be checked first and what would make the camera test happen. "So you're not saying no, you're saying not yet. And if it's not clear, you'll send me?"
- ●If the doctor says grief or low mood may be behind the weight loss and poor sleep, or uses the word depression:
- ●Reaction: Defensive. "So you're saying it's all in my head? I'm grieving. Anybody would be. I'm not going soft." On depression: "Me? Is that not just grief?" He softens if told the symptoms are real, the weight loss will still be checked, and it is an illness, not weakness.
- ●If the doctor arranges to see him in person, or asks him to lift his shirt or weigh himself on camera:
- ●Reaction: Relieved to be seen. "That's all I wanted, somebody to look at me properly. Can Janine bring me? And who tells me the results? I don't want to wait weeks." On camera: "I'm not lifting my shirt up on a screen, Doctor. I'll come in."
- ●If the doctor suggests treatment (tablets, talking therapy, sleeping tablets) or says how long recovery takes:
- ●Reaction: Wary of tablets. "Will I get hooked on them? Will they make me dopey? Will they upset my stomach?" Mirtazapine: "Does that one make you hungry? I could do with that." Talking therapy: "I'm not one for sitting talking to a stranger about my feelings," but he is open to something practical. On recovery: "Will this ever lift? I don't want to be told it'll be a week."
- ●If the doctor offers bereavement support, suggests removing Beverley's medicines, or asks to involve Janine:
- ●Reaction: On support: "I couldn't go to the club. Everybody would ask how I am." He accepts a small step: "Cecil could fetch me." On the medicines he softens: "It's the last bit of her that's left in that cabinet. Janine could take them. She's coming Saturday." On Janine: "I don't want to worry her." He agrees if asked: "As long as it's you who tells her, and you don't make it sound worse than it is."
- ●If the doctor says the tests will probably be normal, gives crisis numbers or safety netting, or explains next steps:
- ●Reaction: To "probably nothing": "You can't say that till you've looked." He accepts honest wording. On crisis numbers: "I'll not do anything, Doctor, but I'll write the number down." On vague safety netting: "Worse how? What exactly should I look out for, and who do I ring?" Given a date for results and review: "That's what I wanted to hear. Thank you, Doctor."
Mark Scheme
Domain 1: Data Gathering and Diagnosis
Domain 2: Clinical Management and Medical Complexity
Domain 3: Relating to Others
Clinical Learning Points
The Core Dilemma and the Model Plan
- ●Clifton asks for a camera test, but the picture is depression about nine months after bereavement, with passive thoughts of death. His certainty rests on his own weight loss and lack of hunger. The skill is to take his stomach worry seriously, keep the weight loss unexplained until physical causes are excluded, treat the depression, and manage risk proportionately.
- ●Model plan: see him in person within two weeks; FIT, blood tests and chest X ray, or a suspected cancer or non specific symptoms pathway referral; explain why gastroscopy is not the first test and what would change that; diagnose depression and offer a choice of treatment; remove Beverley's medicines with Janine's help, with his permission; bereavement and practical support; review within a week; specific safety nets.
- ●Also acceptable: urgent gastroscopy within the work up if the reasons are explained and the other tests and mood treatment are also in the plan, and a pathway referral instead of tests in primary care.
Depression Behind a Physical Presentation, and Grief
- ●Older men often present with sleep, appetite, weight and "my stomach" rather than low mood. NICE NG222 (Depression in adults, 2022) suggests two identification questions (feeling down or hopeless; little interest or pleasure) and a comprehensive assessment of severity, duration, history and functioning, with bereavement, loneliness, alcohol and sleep as factors.
- ●NG222 treats a PHQ9 of 16 or more as a more severe episode; Clifton's picture fits, with a PHQ9 of about 20 if read out.
- ●Features favouring depression over grief are constant low mood not tied to reminders, loss of interest in nearly everything, worthlessness, hopelessness, guilt, early waking, marked weight loss and a clear fall in functioning. Depression and bereavement can coexist, and "it is just grief" at about nine months with this impairment misses a treatable illness.
Unexplained Weight Loss in a Man Over 60
- ●NICE NG12 (Suspected cancer, updated April 2026) treats symptoms as "unexplained" until initial primary care assessment has not led to a diagnosis. Depression is plausible but does not explain the weight loss until physical causes are looked for.
- ●NG12 1.13.2: for people aged 60 and over with unexplained weight loss (more than 5% of body weight within 6 months), assess for features of a particular cancer and offer urgent investigation, a suspected cancer pathway referral, or a non specific symptoms pathway referral, by clinical judgement. 1.13.3 adds the same for unexplained appetite loss.
- ●Clifton has lost about 6 kg of 84 kg (about 7.5%), mostly in five months, so he meets the threshold. NG12 defines urgent as before 2 weeks.
The Physical Work Up
- ●In person: weigh him on the practice scales against the 84 kg on record, blood pressure and pulse, abdomen, lymph nodes, chest, mouth and dentition. Never ask him to examine himself on video.
- ●NG12 1.3.1: offer a quantitative FIT to adults aged 50 and over with unexplained weight loss. At least 10 micrograms of haemoglobin per gram triggers a suspected cancer pathway referral (1.3.2). A lower result needs safety netting, and referral should not be delayed if concern is strong (1.3.3).
- ●NG12 1.1.2: urgent chest X ray for people aged 40 and over with two or more of cough, fatigue, shortness of breath, chest pain, weight loss and appetite loss. He has weight loss and appetite loss.
- ●Blood tests are clinical judgement: full blood count, ferritin if haemoglobin is low, urea and electrolytes (also a sodium baseline before an antidepressant), liver function, calcium, thyroid function, HbA1c or glucose, C reactive protein.
The Camera Test
- ●NG12 recommends suspected cancer pathway referral for oesophageal or stomach cancer with dysphagia, or at 55 and over with weight loss plus upper abdominal pain, reflux or dyspepsia (1.2.1 and 1.2.7), and non urgent direct access endoscopy for haematemesis and some other combinations (1.2.2 to 1.2.9).
- ●Clifton has no swallowing difficulty, upper abdominal pain or discomfort, reflux, nausea, vomiting or bleeding, so he meets none. His "full all the time" is loss of hunger; asked, he denies filling up quickly once he eats. His worry is real, but the plan is to find out what is causing the weight loss, not just to book the one test he asked for. Gastroscopy follows if upper gastrointestinal symptoms appear, results point that way, or his weight keeps falling.
Risk Assessment: Ask Directly, Ask About Means
- ●NG222 1.2.8: always ask directly about suicidal ideation and intent, assess support and whether the person knows where to get help. Asking only "would you harm yourself?" gets a truthful "no" from Clifton, who would never harm himself but would not mind not waking up. Ask about that directly.
- ●Explore plan, intent, previous attempts, alcohol and protective factors (Janine's nightly call, his grandsons, his faith).
- ●Ask about means. Clifton has Beverley's strong painkillers, sleeping tablets and blood pressure tablets in a carrier bag, an obvious hazard. The proportionate step is for a named person to take them to a pharmacy within days.
- ●NG222 1.2.12: do not withhold treatment because of risk, consider overdose toxicity, limit supply if necessary, and consider more frequent contact and specialist referral. With passive thoughts, no plan or intent and good protective factors, community management with a short review is proportionate. Emergency assessment is for considerable immediate risk (1.2.9). NICE NG225 (Self harm, 2022) 1.6 advises against risk scales to predict suicide, and a PHQ9 measures depression severity, not suicide risk.
Treating the Depression
- ●NG222 table 2 for a more severe episode: individual CBT with an antidepressant, CBT, behavioural activation or an antidepressant alone, with counselling and problem solving also listed. The choice is his. Behavioural activation suits a man who "does not do talking". NHS Talking Therapies accept self referral, but give an honest wait and support meanwhile.
- ●SSRIs are generally first choice, with attention in older people to falls, fractures and low sodium (NG222 1.4.24). BNF doses: sertraline 50 mg daily, increasing by 50 mg at intervals of at least a week up to 200 mg (a lower start in a frail person is reasonable); citalopram in the elderly 10 mg initially, maximum 20 mg; escitalopram in the elderly 5 mg initially, maximum 10 mg, both because of higher exposure and QT prolongation. Mirtazapine 15 to 30 mg at bedtime, up to 45 mg, is sedating and increases appetite, which may suit him, but it is not first choice.
- ●Do not routinely start a tricyclic other than lofepramine (NG222 1.4.23). Avoid benzodiazepines and Z drugs, which do not treat depression.
- ●Counsel on nausea (take with food), early restlessness and anxiety, possible increase in suicidal thoughts at the start, benefit within about 4 weeks, and treatment for at least 6 months after remission. Review within 2 weeks, or 1 week if suicide risk is a particular concern (1.4.22).
Support, Meals and Involving Janine
- ●Small frequent meals, fortified food, freezer meals from family or a community meal service are reasonable, with a dietitian if weight keeps falling.
- ●A bereavement counselling service, a men's group, befriending or a link worker may suit him. Behavioural activation can start with Cecil collecting him for half an hour at dominoes.
- ●Involve Janine with his permission: explain what she would be told and respect his wish not to burden her.
Follow Up and Safety Netting
- ●Review within about a week, and no later than 2 weeks: results, weight, mood, risk and side effects. If the weight keeps falling or any result is abnormal, escalate to a suspected cancer or non specific symptoms pathway referral or gastroscopy. A normal FIT does not close the question if weight loss continues.
- ●Physical safety net: same day contact for difficulty swallowing, repeated vomiting, black or bloody stools or persistent abdominal pain; urgent help for vomiting blood or collapse.
- ●Mental health safety net: stronger thoughts or thinking of acting means the GP the same day or NHS 111, Samaritans on 116 123 at any hour, and 999 or A&E if about to act.
Common Mistakes in This Station
- ●Booking a gastroscopy as the only plan, or refusing it flatly.
- ●Blaming grief or depression with no examination, blood tests, FIT, chest X ray or referral.
- ●Never asking about mood, or asking only about "harming yourself" and accepting the "no".
- ●Missing the medicines in the cabinet, or finding them with no plan.
- ●Sending him for emergency assessment tonight despite no plan or intent.
- ●Choosing a tricyclic or sleeping tablet, exceeding older adult ceilings, or no review date.
- ●Saying "it is just grief" or "you will feel better in a few days".
- ●Vague safety netting with no red flags, crisis numbers or review date.
Mapped to the RCGP curriculum topic: Mental Health.
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