Father of A 10 Year Old Bedwetter Before A School Residential Trip — Free SCA Practice Case
Father of a 10 year old bedwetter before a school residential trip
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Data Gathering
History, ICE & Diagnosis
Clinical Management
Diagnosis, Plan & Decisions
Safety Net
Follow-up & Close
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Materials for Candidate
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Full Name
Ronan Raftery
Age
10 years
Consultation Type
TelephoneCaller
Colm Raftery, 41, Ronan's father
Situation
Telephone Consultation. Mr Raftery has booked a call about his son. Ronan is at home and is not on the call.
Reason for Encounter
"Father asking about his son's bedwetting. School residential trip next month."
Medical Records (patient)
- ●PMH: Nil significant. Immunisations up to date. Height and weight on the 50th centile at the last school nurse check. Seen 3 months ago with a viral sore throat.
- ●Medications: None.
- ●Allergies: NKDA.
- ●Social: Lives with both parents and his 7 year old sister.
Patient Script
For the friend playing the patient role
Character Overview: You are Colm Raftery, a 41 year old railway signalling technician, calling about your son Ronan, who is 10. You live with your wife Aisling, who works at a garden centre, Ronan, and your daughter Grainne, who is 7 and dry at night. Ronan has wet the bed since he was a baby and has never had a dry spell longer than about a fortnight. He is fit, happy and doing well at school. His class goes on a five night residential at an outdoor activity centre in about four weeks, and he is dreading it. He has said he does not want to go, then quietly asked Aisling to sort it out. You want it fixed before the trip. A colleague told you his daughter was given a tablet that worked straight away, so you are hoping for the same. You are a practical, warm, slightly harried dad who adores his son. You are not angry with Ronan and you do not blame him. You speak in short, plain sentences and you are open to advice once it is explained clearly. Ronan is in the next room. You are happy to fetch him if the doctor asks.
Opening Sentence: "Hello, doctor. It's about my son Ronan, he's ten. He still wets the bed about three nights a week and he's got a school trip coming up next month, five nights away, and he's dreading it. We tried an alarm but it didn't work. Is there anything you can give him?"
History if Asked (Data Gathering Phase)
- ●Pattern: "Three nights a week, give or take. It's never been much better or worse. He's never been properly dry. The longest was maybe a fortnight when he was seven."
- ●Timing and amount: "Once a night, and it's a big wet, the whole bed. It's usually early. We find him wet when we go to bed."
- ●Waking: "He doesn't wake. He sleeps like a log. We change him and the sheets, and he barely stirs."
- ●Daytime: "He's fine in the day. No accidents. No rushing to the toilet. Five or six times a day, normal stream, nothing sore."
- ●School toilets: "Now you mention it, he hates the toilets at school. He says they're grim and the doors don't lock. So he holds on until he's home. That's most days."
- ●Drinks: "He doesn't drink much during the day. A few sips from a water bottle at school and he brings it home half full. Then he's thirsty after school and has a lot at teatime and a big mug of hot chocolate before bed. Probably about a litre in total, but more than half of it is after five o'clock. We tried stopping drinks after tea for a few months and it made no difference."
- ●Bowels: "Every day, soft, no trouble. No soiling or skid marks."
- ●Wellbeing and thirst: "No unusual thirst, no weight loss, nothing like that. He's not passing lots of urine in the day. No burning, no smelly urine, no infections."
- ●What has been tried: "Waterproof mattress cover. A sticker chart when he was about six, which fizzled out. I lift him to the toilet when we go to bed and he's half asleep, but he still wets most of the time. And the alarm, which we bought online."
- ●The alarm: "It's the kind that clips onto his pants and has a sensor. We used it for about ten days. He slept straight through it, but it woke Grainne across the landing and she cried, and then Aisling and I were up every time. No dry nights in that time, so we gave up. It's still in the wardrobe."
- ●Sleep: "He sleeps well. He doesn't snore. No pauses in his breathing that we've noticed."
- ●Family history: "Aisling's brother wet the bed until he was about twelve. Nobody on my side."
Ideas, Concerns, Expectations
Gating note: Colm does not raise any of the following himself. Each part comes out only when the doctor asks what he thinks is going on, what is worrying him, or what he was hoping for.
- ●Ideas: "I think he's just a deep sleeper who hasn't grown out of it. The alarm didn't work, so I assumed that route's not for him."
- ●Concerns: "I'm worried the other boys will find out and he'll be teased. He's been turning down sleepovers for two years. He told Aisling he wasn't going on the trip, and then he asked her to sort it out. I don't want him missing out. I also don't know if a tablet like that is a hormone, or whether it's safe for a ten year old, or whether he'd be on it for ever."
- ●Expectations: "I'd like a tablet for the trip. A colleague said his daughter was given one and it worked from the first night. I'd like to know what to do about the teachers, because Ronan doesn't want the other children knowing."
If Asked: Medical History and Medications
Gating note: Colm answers each of these plainly when the doctor asks about it.
- ●Past health: "Nothing really. He's healthy. Just coughs and colds."
- ●Medicines and allergies: "He takes nothing regular and has no allergies."
- ●Kidneys, heart, epilepsy, diabetes: "None of those. No one in the family has diabetes."
- ●Current illness: "He's well today. No sickness or diarrhoea."
- ●Development and growth: "He's doing well at school and keeps up in football. He's an average height for his class."
Social History and Lifestyle Impact
Gating note: Colm mentions these naturally in the conversation, not as a monologue.
- ●Home: "We live in a three bedroom house. Ronan has his own room next to the bathroom. Grainne's room is across the landing. I start work at five most mornings, so the nights matter."
- ●Impact on Ronan: "He's a happy lad. Football on Saturdays. He's got good friends. He's embarrassed about this, that's all. Nothing else is bothering him, and there's been no change at home or school."
- ●Impact on the family: "Aisling does most of the sheets, about four loads a week. It's wearing, but we never cross with him. I've never told him off."
- ●The trip: "It's an outdoor activity centre, five nights, in a dormitory of four boys. Supper is at about eight with a hot drink, then lights out. His teacher is leading it. I haven't told the school anything."
- ●Ronan's view: "He knows I'm calling. He says he wants the tablet and he doesn't want the alarm again, because it was embarrassing."
If Asked: Associated Symptoms
Gating note: Colm answers these only when asked. Every one is negative unless stated.
- ●Daytime wetting, urgency, frequency, pain, poor stream, straining: "No, none of that, and he doesn't go more than five or six times a day."
- ●Constipation or soiling: "No."
- ●Excess thirst, weight loss, tiredness: "No."
- ●Fever, urine infections, back pain: "No."
- ●Snoring or breathing pauses: "No."
- ●Low mood, worries, bullying, changes at school or home: "No. He's cheerful. We'd know."
- ●Weight and growth concerns: "No."
- ●Daytime vomiting or diarrhoea at the moment: "No."
Responses to Management (The Negotiation Phase)
- ●If the doctor reassures you that bedwetting is common and not his fault, and talks about drinks and toileting: "Right, that's a relief, honestly. So he should drink more during the day? If he drinks more, won't he just wet more? And we cut his drinks after tea before and it did nothing. Should we be doing something about the school toilets? I'll talk to him about it."
- ●If the doctor suggests trying the alarm again: "We did try it. Ten days and nothing. It woke Grainne and not him. Ronan's dead against it. Is ten days too soon? How long does it take? I suppose Grainne could go in our room for a bit, and I could wake him when it goes off. Could we do the alarm for the long term and have a tablet just for the trip?"
- ●If the doctor offers desmopressin for the trip: "Brilliant. What is it? Is it a hormone? Is it safe at ten? Would he be on it for ever? What does it do to him? Does it work the first night? What are the side effects?"
- ●If the doctor explains the fluid restriction: "Hmm. At the centre they have supper at eight and a hot chocolate, and lights out is later. How strict is it? What if he's thirsty? What if he's been sick? What if they do something wet, like kayaking?"
- ●If the doctor discusses the trip, teachers and the plan: "Who gives him the tablet there, him or the teacher? Do I have to tell the school? He doesn't want the other lads to know. How many tablets would we need? Could we try it first, before we go, so we know whether it works for him?"
- ●If the doctor offers to speak to Ronan, or asks how he feels: You fetch him and relay what he says. "He says he just wants the tablet and he doesn't want people knowing. He says he'll try the alarm if it means it stops for good, as long as nobody finds out." If the doctor asks about follow up or safety netting: "Okay. How soon will we know if it's working? We'll book in. Who do we call if there's a problem?"
Mark Scheme
Domain 1: Data Gathering and Diagnosis
Domain 2: Clinical Management and Medical Complexity
Domain 3: Relating to Others
Clinical Learning Points
The Core Dilemma and the Model Plan
- ●Colm Raftery rings about his son Ronan, aged 10, who wets the bed about three nights a week and has never been dry for long. A five night school trip is four weeks away and Ronan is dreading it. A short alarm trial failed after ten days, and the father is hoping for a tablet that works from the first night. The station tests whether the candidate takes a proper bedwetting history, treats the trip as a short term goal without losing sight of lasting treatment, and keeps an embarrassed boy at the centre of the plan.
- ●The model plan has six parts. Confirm primary nocturnal enuresis with no daytime symptoms, constipation or features of diabetes or infection, so no tests are needed. Correct his drinking, with more through the school day and less in the evening, and encourage regular toilet use. Explain that the alarm is the treatment with the best long term success and that ten days was too short to judge. Offer desmopressin for the trip, taken on a trial run beforehand. Counsel on the fluid limit and how to keep the trip private. Review in about four weeks.
- ●Acceptable alternatives: restarting the alarm with support and giving desmopressin for the trip at the same time; desmopressin alone for now, with the alarm discussed again after the trip; or an alarm only plan if the family prefers, with desmopressin held back for after the trip. Each is reasonable if the family has chosen it with full information. A considered refusal of the alarm, after the options are explained, is also acceptable.
Assessing Bedwetting in a Ten Year Old
- ●NICE guideline CG111 (Bedwetting in under 19s, page checked 6 October 2026) asks for the pattern of wetting: how many nights a week, how often in a night, the volume, the time of night and whether the child wakes. Large wets in the first few hours of the night are the typical pattern for bedwetting alone.
- ●Ask whether he has ever been dry for six months. If not, this is primary. Secondary bedwetting needs a search for triggers such as infection, constipation, diabetes or stress.
- ●Ask about daytime symptoms: frequency (more than seven times a day), urgency, wetting, passing urine fewer than four times a day, straining, a poor stream and pain. Ask about avoiding school toilets. Daytime symptoms that dominate should be dealt with first.
- ●Ask about constipation, soiling, developmental or behavioural problems, diabetes symptoms and family problems. Urinalysis is not done routinely, unless wetting began in the last few days or weeks, there are daytime symptoms, there are signs of ill health, or there are features of infection or diabetes. Ronan has none of these, so a urine dip is not needed.
- ●Family history is common. His mother's brother wet the bed until about twelve.
Fluids, Toileting and Practical Measures
- ●Ronan drinks about a litre a day, with most after five o'clock, and he avoids the school toilets. NICE suggests 1,400 to 2,300 ml a day for a boy aged 9 to 13. Advise regular drinks through the day, front loaded, with fewer in the hour or two before bed. Stopping evening drinks alone, which the family tried, does not help if the daytime intake stays low.
- ●Avoid caffeine drinks. Encourage the toilet four to seven times a day and just before sleep. Ask the school about better access.
- ●Lifting or waking him at night does not bring long term dryness and should be a short term practical measure only. Rewards should be for agreed behaviour such as drinking and toileting, not dry nights. Never punish, and do not remove rewards.
Alarm Treatment
- ●NICE offers an alarm as first line treatment for children whose bedwetting has not responded to fluid, toileting and reward advice, unless the family finds it undesirable or inappropriate. NICE tells families that alarms have a high long term success rate.
- ●Early signs of response, after a few weeks, are smaller wets, waking to the alarm, the alarm sounding later and fewer wet nights. Dry nights come later. Assess at four weeks, continue if there are early signs, and carry on until two weeks of uninterrupted dry nights. Reassess at three months.
- ●Ten days with a sleeping child and a disturbed household is not a fair trial. Problem solving helps: a parent wakes him when it goes off, his sister sleeps elsewhere for a few weeks, and the family agrees roles and a simple reward plan. Parents can restart it themselves after a relapse.
Desmopressin
- ●NICE advises offering desmopressin to children over 7 if rapid or short term improvement is the priority, or if an alarm is inappropriate or undesirable. A school trip is the typical example. It can be combined with an alarm, or used alone.
- ●BNF (checked 6 October 2026) gives for ages 5 to 17 by mouth: tablets 200 micrograms at bedtime, increased to 400 micrograms if needed; sublingual melts 120 micrograms, increased to 240; oral solution 180 micrograms, increased to 360. The dose is taken at bedtime, with fluids limited from 1 hour before to 8 hours after, and increased only if the lower dose fails. NICE says to consider increasing after 1 to 2 weeks without full dryness. Any of these forms is acceptable. Nasal spray should not be used for bedwetting (MHRA Drug Safety Update, September 2007: nasal formulations no longer indicated for primary nocturnal enuresis).
- ●Counsel that many, not all, children respond, and many relapse once it stops. It is a synthetic version of the hormone that reduces night time urine production, and it is not needed for ever.
- ●The main hazard is water retention causing low sodium (hyponatraemia), which can cause headache, nausea, confusion and seizures. This is why drinks are limited around the dose. Stop the tablets during vomiting or diarrhoea until fluid balance is normal, and avoid fluid overload, including when swimming. BNF contraindications include a history of hyponatraemia, psychogenic polydipsia, cardiac insufficiency, treatment with diuretics and SIADH. Ronan has none of these.
Planning for the Trip
- ●Ask when the trip is and what the nights involve. A supper drink at about eight and lights out later fits poorly with a fluid limit from an hour before the dose. Suggest Ronan takes the tablet at bedtime and keeps drinks small from about an hour earlier, with a few sips if thirsty and the main drink at supper earlier in the evening.
- ●A trial run at home two to three weeks before the trip shows whether it works and whether the dose needs to rise. Prescribe enough for the trial and the five nights.
- ●Medicines on school trips normally travel in the original labelled box with a consent form and a named adult to supervise. One trusted member of staff can be told. Nobody else need know. Discreet disposable night pants or a waterproof sleeping bag liner help.
- ●An alarm is impractical in a dormitory, so it is best used at home before and after the trip.
Talking With the Father and Ronan
- ●Say plainly that bedwetting is common, often runs in families and is not his fault. Acknowledge the effort of the failed alarm and pick up the sleepover cue.
- ●Offer to speak to Ronan, who may accept an alarm if the aim is lasting dryness and privacy is protected. No examination is needed.
- ●Use plain language and check back what has been understood.
Review, Relapse and Referral
- ●Review at about four weeks. For desmopressin, continue for three months if there are signs of response, then withdraw for at least a week to check whether he is dry without it. Courses can be repeated. If he relapses after a response, withdraw gradually and consider the alarm again.
- ●Refer for further assessment if bedwetting has not responded to the alarm or desmopressin, or if daytime symptoms, known urological or neurological problems, constipation resistant to treatment or other concerns develop. If wetting becomes secondary, ask about triggers, infection and diabetes.
- ●Safety net for new daytime symptoms, thirst or weight loss, pain passing urine, and headache, nausea, vomiting or drowsiness on desmopressin.
Common Mistakes in This Station
- ●Prescribing desmopressin immediately without taking a history or explaining the fluid limit.
- ●Refusing desmopressin because it is not first line, even though short term dryness for the trip is the family's priority.
- ●Telling the family the alarm failed and must not be tried again.
- ●Advising stopping evening drinks as the whole answer, or restricting fluid in the daytime.
- ●Suggesting lifting at night as a cure, or punishing or removing rewards.
- ●Arranging tests or a referral without any indication.
- ●Forgetting the trip logistics, Ronan's privacy or his voice, and missing the school toilet avoidance and low daytime intake.
Mapped to the RCGP curriculum topic: Patient < 19 years old.
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