Widespread Pain Who Wants More Scans and A Rheumatology Referral — Free SCA Practice Case
Woman with widespread pain who wants more scans and a rheumatology referral
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Golden Minute
Initial Introduction
•Introduce yourself
•Ask an open question — "How can I help you today?"
•Listen — don't interrupt
•Catch early cues
Data Gathering
History, ICE & Diagnosis
Clinical Management
Diagnosis, Plan & Decisions
Safety Net
Follow-up & Close
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Materials for Candidate
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Full Name
Lakshmi Varghese
Age
45 years
Consultation Type
VideoAge
45
Situation
Video Consultation. Follow up appointment booked by the patient.
Reason for Encounter
"Aching all over for a year. Wants a scan and to see a rheumatologist."
Medical Records
- ●PMH: Irritable bowel syndrome, diagnosed in her thirties. Caesarean section 15 years ago.
- ●Medications: None on repeat. Buys ibuprofen and paracetamol over the counter.
- ●Allergies: NKDA.
- ●Social: Domiciliary care worker.
Recent Notes
- ●Consultation, 3 months ago: Generalised aching for 9 months. No synovitis, full range of movement. FBC, ESR, CRP, U&E, LFTs, bone profile, TFTs, HbA1c, CK, vitamin D and coeliac screen arranged.
- ●Results: All within normal limits.
Patient Script
For the friend playing the patient role
Character Overview: You are Lakshmi Varghese, a 45 year old domiciliary care worker. You visit people in their own homes, helping them wash, dress, eat and move, and some calls need two carers and a hoist. You work about 36 hours a week on early and late rounds and drive your own car between clients. You live with your husband Anil, who works in the council housing office, and your daughter Meera, who is 15. About a year ago you had a heavy flu like illness, and since then you have ached all over and never felt rested. You have been to the surgery four times. One doctor said the blood tests were fine and it was probably stress, and another told you to get more exercise. You went away feeling you had been called a time waster. You are quietly determined and polite. When you talk about not being believed your voice becomes thin and wobbly, and when you talk about your daughter it softens. You speak in short, tired sentences.
Opening Sentence: "Hello doctor. I've been aching all over for about a year now and nothing is getting better. All my blood tests come back normal but I know something is wrong with me, so I'd like a proper scan and to see a rheumatologist, please."
History if Asked (Data Gathering Phase)
- ●How it started: "About a year ago I had a horrible flu, in bed for a week. The fever went but the aching never did. It came on gradually all over and has just stayed."
- ●Where it is: "Everywhere really. My neck, shoulders, upper back, hips, thighs and knees, both sides, top half and bottom half. It moves about. Some days it's mostly my shoulders and the next it's my legs."
- ●What it feels like: "A deep, heavy ache, and sometimes burning. My skin feels sore. Even Meera hugging me can hurt. Most days it's about five out of ten and after a long round it goes up to eight."
- ●Morning and stiffness: "I'm stiff when I get up, but it loosens within about fifteen minutes. I don't have swollen or hot joints and nothing has gone red."
- ●Weakness: "My arms feel heavy and tired, but I'm not actually weak. I can still use the hoist and help people up."
- ●Tiredness: "I'm exhausted all the time, even after a day off. I wake up feeling like I haven't slept."
- ●Sleep: "I take about an hour to get off, then I wake three or four times. I get maybe four or five hours. Anil says I twitch and turn but he says I don't snore."
- ●Thinking and memory: "I'm foggy. I lose words in the middle of a sentence and I forget things I'd normally put in the client notes."
- ●Other symptoms: "Headaches most weeks, and my usual bowel trouble is a bit up and down."
- ●What eases and worsens it: "Heat helps a bit, a hot bath especially. A long round or a stressful day makes it worse. If I've done a lot, I'm flat for two days afterwards."
- ●What I've taken: "Ibuprofen 400 up to three times a day on bad weeks, and paracetamol up to four times a day. They barely touch it."
- ●Exercise: "I used to walk 5 kilometres with a friend every weekend. I stopped because I was in bits for two days after. I haven't been back."
- ●Mood: "I'm low a lot of the time and tearful, and I snap at Anil. I don't enjoy things like I used to. But I've never wanted to harm myself and I wouldn't do anything like that."
- ●Periods: "They've gone a bit irregular over the last six months, anything from three to six weeks apart, lighter than before. I get hot flushes at night some weeks."
- ●What was tested: "I've had a lot of blood tests and a shoulder X ray and everything was normal. Nobody has sent me for a scan or to a specialist."
Ideas, Concerns, Expectations
Gating note: Lakshmi does not raise any of the following herself. Each part comes out only when the doctor asks what she thinks is going on, what is worrying her, or what she was hoping for.
- ●Ideas: She believes an autoimmune illness such as lupus or rheumatoid arthritis is being missed, because a colleague had lupus that took years to find. She thinks tests can miss things and that only a scan of her whole body would show what is happening. "A girl at work had lupus and it took them years. I think I've got something like that and it's just not showing up yet."
- ●Concerns: Her biggest worry is that she is not believed and is seen as a time waster. She is also afraid that if no one finds the cause she will get worse and be unable to work or look after her daughter. "I feel like nobody believes me. If they don't find it, what happens, am I going to end up in a wheelchair?"
- ●Expectations: She came for a full body scan and a referral to a rheumatologist. She would also like something stronger for the pain and a name for what she has. "A scan of everything, and a specialist. And something stronger, because the ordinary tablets don't work."
If Asked: Medical History and Medications
Gating note: Lakshmi answers each of these plainly when the doctor asks about it.
- ●Other health problems: "Irritable bowel in my thirties. Nothing else. I had a caesarean for Meera."
- ●Medicines: "Only the ibuprofen and paracetamol I buy at the chemist. Nothing on prescription and no herbal things."
- ●Allergies: "None."
- ●Family history: "My mum has high blood pressure. No one has arthritis or anything like that."
- ●Alcohol and caffeine: "I hardly drink. About four cups of tea or coffee a day."
Social History and Lifestyle Impact
- ●Work: Lakshmi does 36 hours a week, often seven days in a fortnight, with some double up calls using a hoist. If asked about adjustments, she says she has never asked, because she is afraid of being given fewer hours. Her manager has called a formal attendance review because she has had 11 days off sick this year.
- ●Home: Anil does the cooking when he can and Meera helps with the washing up. She feels guilty about being too tired for Meera.
- ●Driving: She drives between clients all day and cannot afford to feel drowsy at the wheel.
- ●Weight and activity: About 11 stone, and gaining a little. Apart from work she is hardly active now.
- ●Availability to be seen: She can come to the surgery after an early round, or on her day off in the middle of the week.
If Asked: Associated Symptoms
Gating note: Lakshmi answers these only when asked. Every one is negative unless stated.
- ●If asked about fever, night sweats or weight loss: "No. My weight is about the same, apart from creeping up."
- ●If asked about a rash, mouth ulcers, dry eyes, white or blue fingers, or sun sensitivity: "None of those."
- ●If asked about joint swelling, redness or heat: "No, my joints look normal. It's the muscles and everywhere around them that ache."
- ●If asked about numbness, pins and needles or true weakness: "Sometimes my hands tingle after a long round, but it passes. I'm not weak."
- ●If asked about bladder or bowel changes, bleeding or lumps: "No change apart from my usual bowel."
- ●If asked about feeling cold, dry skin or constipation: "No."
- ●If asked about thoughts of harming herself: "No. I get low, but I'd never do that. I have Meera."
Responses to Management (The Negotiation Phase)
- ●If the doctor explains that the tests are normal and a scan or a rheumatology referral is not needed now:
- ●Reaction: Hurt and defensive. "So you're saying there's nothing wrong with me? It hurts every single day." She softens if told her pain is real, that normal tests mean there is no joint damage or inflammation, and that she would be referred if certain signs appeared. "So what would make you send me?" She asks, "Will a scan not show something the bloods can't?"
- ●If the doctor explains a diagnosis for her widespread pain:
- ●Reaction: Wary. "A condition? Is it real, or are you saying it's in my head?" If told it is real and common and not caused by damage, she says, "So why does it hurt so much, then?" She settles when told the nervous system is turning the pain up. "Okay. That makes some sense. Nobody's explained it like that."
- ●If the doctor suggests exercise, pacing or talking therapy:
- ●Reaction: Doubtful. "Exercise? I'm in bits for two days when I walk. And talking therapy, I'm not mad." If it is explained that the exercise starts very gently in a group and builds slowly, and that talking therapy helps people live with pain, not because it is imagined: "A gentle group might be all right. I'd do that if it's slow."
- ●If the doctor discusses medicines:
- ●Reaction: Hopeful, then cautious. "Is there not something stronger? A colleague takes pregabalin, and my friend was on tramadol." If told these are not recommended because they do not help and can cause harm or dependence: "Right, I don't want to get hooked." If a low dose tablet at night is offered, she asks, "Will it make me drowsy? I drive for work."
- ●If the doctor discusses work, a fit note or occupational health:
- ●Reaction: Anxious. "I've got an attendance review. Will a sick note count against me?" If offered a note supporting adjusted duties or fewer double up calls: "Could you write it so they can see it's a medical thing?" If told to stop work: "I can't just stop. We need my wage."
- ●If the doctor describes the outlook, follow up or safety netting:
- ●Reaction: Wants specifics. "Will it ever go away? When do I see you again?" If safety netting is vague, such as "come back if it gets worse": "It's bad already. What would make you worry?" She repeats back clearly when given specific signs and what to do.
Mark Scheme
Domain 1: Data Gathering and Diagnosis
Domain 2: Clinical Management and Medical Complexity
Domain 3: Relating to Others
Clinical Learning Points
The Core Dilemma and the Model Plan
- ●Lakshmi has a year of widespread aching, unrefreshing sleep, fatigue and poor concentration, with normal blood tests, and she wants scans and a rheumatology referral because she feels disbelieved. The station tests making a positive diagnosis, explaining it without dismissing her, and offering non drug care while avoiding drugs that do harm.
- ●The model plan has six parts. Validate her experience first. Arrange to examine her in person for synovitis, tenderness and neurological findings. Name the diagnosis as fibromyalgia, a form of chronic primary pain, and explain it. Decide against scans and routine rheumatology referral, saying what would change that. Offer supervised exercise, psychological support and sleep help, with an antidepressant only after a full discussion. Support her at work and arrange review.
- ●Acceptable alternatives: examining at a prompt face to face visit before confirming the diagnosis, or confirming it provisionally on the call and examining within days. Deferring any medicine, or offering a low dose antidepressant, are both reasonable. A single course of acupuncture may be considered. Referral to a pain management service or rheumatology is acceptable if there is a clear reason, such as inflammatory features or real diagnostic doubt.
Recognising Fibromyalgia and Chronic Primary Pain
- ●Fibromyalgia presents with widespread pain lasting more than three months, with fatigue, unrefreshing sleep and cognitive difficulty, sometimes called fibro fog. Headaches, irritable bowel symptoms and low mood commonly coexist, as they do here.
- ●Many people date onset to an infection, injury or stress. Pain often moves from day to day, may burn, and flares after exertion.
- ●NICE guideline NG193 (chronic pain, primary and secondary, in over 16s) defines chronic primary pain as pain lasting more than three months where no underlying condition adequately accounts for the pain or its impact. Fibromyalgia is one example. The 2016 American College of Rheumatology criteria (US criteria, not UK guidance) combine a widespread pain index and a symptom severity scale, but they are not needed in the consultation.
- ●Diagnosis is clinical. A normal examination and normal tests do not mean there is no problem, they mean the problem is not joint or muscle damage.
Excluding Other Causes Without Over Investigating
- ●A sensible first screen covers full blood count, inflammatory markers (ESR and CRP), thyroid function, kidney and liver function, bone profile, creatine kinase, HbA1c and coeliac serology. Lakshmi has already had these and they are normal, so repeating them would add nothing.
- ●Features that should prompt a different thought: swollen, hot or red joints, morning stiffness lasting over 30 minutes, rash, mouth ulcers, dry eyes, Raynaud phenomenon, proximal muscle weakness, fever, weight loss or night sweats. Lakshmi has none, and a short stiffness of about fifteen minutes is not inflammatory.
- ●Low mood, poor sleep, thyroid disease and perimenopause can overlap with fibromyalgia. Her irregular lighter periods and night flushes suggest perimenopause, which is worth discussing at review, and her low mood needs assessing with a direct question about self harm.
Why Not a Scan or a Rheumatology Referral
- ●Imaging adds nothing without a structural question. Scans often show age related changes that may reinforce a belief that something is broken. Whole body MRI (magnetic resonance imaging) is not a recognised test for this presentation.
- ●Rheumatology referral is reasonable now or later if the history or examination suggests inflammatory disease, if investigations are abnormal, or if the diagnosis stays in doubt; a candidate who refers for genuine diagnostic doubt also passes. Telling Lakshmi these specific triggers lets her hold the doctor to a clear standard and protects the relationship.
- ●A good answer does not simply refuse. It explains that normal results are good news about her joints, that the pain is real, and that a referral would not give her more than the plan offered here.
Non Drug Management: the Core of Care
- ●NG193 recommends a supervised group exercise programme for people aged 16 and over with chronic primary pain, taking account of needs and preferences, and encouraging long term physical activity. Start low and build slowly, because a flare after walking is common and does not mean damage. Pacing means spreading activity through the week rather than doing everything on a good day and crashing on the next two.
- ●NG193 says to consider acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT) or cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT) for pain, delivered by trained professionals. Explain it as a way to live well with pain, not a verdict that it is imagined.
- ●NG193 says to consider a single course of acupuncture or dry needling, within a locally commissioned service. It is optional.
- ●NG193 says not to offer biofeedback, and not to offer TENS, ultrasound or interferential therapy. Do not recommend these.
- ●Sleep help covers a regular routine, less caffeine in the afternoon and evening, a wind down hour and a bedroom that is dark and quiet. Lakshmi drinks about four caffeinated drinks daily. Treat low mood actively and consider perimenopause as a contributor.
- ●Written information and charity resources help people to understand and self manage.
Medicines: What to Offer and What to Avoid
- ●NG193 recommends considering an antidepressant, either amitriptyline, citalopram, duloxetine, fluoxetine, paroxetine or sertraline, for adults with chronic primary pain, after a full discussion of benefits and harms. This was off label use when the guideline was published. Antidepressants may help pain, sleep and distress even without a diagnosis of depression.
- ●If an antidepressant is chosen, start low and increase slowly. For example, amitriptyline might begin at 10 mg in the evening and be built up gradually, as BNF dosing for neuropathic pain describes. Explain dry mouth, drowsiness and constipation, advise caution when driving, and review benefit after a few weeks. Her job involves driving between clients, a practical reason to discuss drowsiness. NG193 advises reviewing continued use, and stopping if there is no benefit.
- ●NG193 says not to initiate antiepileptics including gabapentinoids, antipsychotics, benzodiazepines, corticosteroid trigger point injections, ketamine, local anaesthetics, NSAIDs (non steroidal anti inflammatory drugs), opioids or paracetamol for chronic primary pain. Pregabalin and gabapentin are Class C controlled drugs, Schedule 3, with risk of misuse and dependence.
- ●NG193 says to review anyone already taking these: continue safely if they report benefit, or support reduction if little benefit. Lakshmi reports little benefit, so the plan is to explain this and reduce them sensibly; keeping occasional use by shared decision is also acceptable.
Communicating the Diagnosis
- ●Start by acknowledging the year of pain and the feeling of being dismissed. People with fibromyalgia often report that a doctor suggested the problem was in their mind.
- ●Use plain images. The pain system in the brain and spinal cord has become over sensitive, so the volume is turned up, even though the joints and muscles are not damaged. This is a real change in how the nervous system works, and it is common. It does not cause joint damage and does not lead to a wheelchair.
- ●Give an honest outlook. Fibromyalgia usually lasts for years, symptoms fluctuate, and most people improve in function and quality of life with an active approach, though a full cure is not usual.
Work and the Fit Note
- ●Supporting people to stay in work is protective. Reasonable adjustments for Lakshmi include fewer double up calls and less hoisting, and a fit note stating she may be fit for work with changes helps at her attendance review. Occupational health is a sensible request.
- ●A note that signs her off for weeks by default risks deconditioning and a worse job outcome. A short sign off with a review is acceptable if she is truly unable to work.
Follow Up, Safety Netting and Referral
- ●Review in about four to six weeks to see how exercise, sleep and mood are going, to review medicine tolerance, to examine in person if this was not done, and to reconsider the diagnosis if new features appear.
- ●Advise her to come back sooner for hot, swollen or red joints, morning stiffness lasting over 30 minutes, new weakness or numbness, fever, weight loss, night sweats, a new rash or a worsening mood or any thoughts of self harm.
- ●Refer to a pain management service if function remains poor despite initial measures, and to rheumatology if inflammatory features or diagnostic doubt arise.
Common Mistakes in This Station
- ●Opening with "your tests are normal", or implying that the pain is stress, so she feels disbelieved again.
- ●Ordering an MRI or an autoimmune screen, or a rheumatology referral, simply to end the disagreement.
- ●Prescribing pregabalin, gabapentin, tramadol or codeine because she asks for something stronger, or continuing regular ibuprofen and paracetamol as if they were treatment.
- ●Telling her to rest or to exercise through the pain, with no structured programme and no pacing.
- ●Starting an antidepressant without discussing side effects, driving, or off label use, or without asking about mood and self harm.
- ●Signing her off work by default and not addressing the attendance review.
- ●Giving a vague "come back if it gets worse" instead of specific features and a review date.
Mapped to the RCGP curriculum topic: Musculoskeletal Health.
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