Motor Neurone Disease Who Wants to Refuse A Ventilator in Future — Free SCA Practice Case
Woman with motor neurone disease who wants to refuse a ventilator in future
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Full Name
Philippa Fairclough
Age
61 years
Consultation Type
VideoAge
61
Situation
Video Consultation. Routine appointment booked by the patient.
Reason for Encounter
"I would like to talk about my future care and get something in writing."
Medical Records
- ●PMH: Motor neurone disease (limb onset), diagnosed 5 months ago and followed by the regional MND clinic. Underactive thyroid.
- ●Medications: Riluzole. Levothyroxine.
- ●Allergies: NKDA.
- ●Social: Retired music teacher. Lives with her husband.
Recent Notes
- ●MND clinic letter, 6 weeks ago: Progressive weakness in both arms, walking independently, speech and swallowing normal. Forced vital capacity 91% of predicted. Next review in 3 months with the specialist nurse.
Patient Script
For the friend playing the patient role
Character Overview: You are Philippa Fairclough, a 61 year old retired music teacher. You taught for thirty years and still teach two piano pupils at home. You live with your husband Emrys, who is 63 and retired from the council, in a house with a downstairs bedroom. Your daughter Lowri lives forty minutes away and visits each week. Your son Ianto lives in Australia and phones on Sundays. Five months ago you were told you have motor neurone disease, and since then your arms have grown weaker, especially the right. You are articulate, dry and organised, the sort of person who makes lists. You have decided to take charge of what you can. Last week you watched a documentary about people living on ventilators at home, and one man with a tube in his neck, who could only move his eyes, has stayed in your mind. You are not low or hopeless. You want to live every day you have, but on your terms. Your voice is steady and businesslike, and it wavers when you talk about being trapped or about Emrys.
Opening Sentence: "Hello, doctor. I've got MND, and I'd like it written in my notes, today if possible, that I am never to be put on a ventilator. I don't want to end up like the people I saw on that programme."
History if Asked (Data Gathering Phase)
- ●The programme: "It was last Tuesday, a documentary about people living on ventilators at home. There was a man in his fifties with a tube in his neck. He couldn't speak or move anything except his eyes, and his wife did everything for him day and night. She looked exhausted. I haven't stopped thinking about it. I decided that night I wouldn't let that happen to me."
- ●What she means by a machine: "Any machine that breathes for me. I assumed it was all one thing. The nurse at the clinic did mention a mask I might wear at night one day, but I didn't take it in. It's the tube in the neck and being kept going for years that I can't bear."
- ●Why now: "My right hand is going. My handwriting has become shaky and my signature is already not what it was. I want it settled while I can still do it properly. And the clinic only sees me again in three months."
- ●What she has been told about MND: "It's the type that began in my arms. They said it varies a lot from person to person and nobody can say how fast. They said the muscles for breathing and swallowing can be affected later. They started riluzole."
- ●Arms and function: "I can't do buttons or open jars. I can't play octaves any more but the left hand is still good. Walking is normal and I still take the dog out every morning."
- ●Breathing and swallowing: "No breathlessness. I sleep flat on one pillow. No morning headaches and I'm not sleepy in the day. My voice is normal and I eat and drink without trouble. I've lost about two kilos."
- ●Her mood: "Some days are very low. I cried for a week after the diagnosis and again after the programme. But I'm sleeping reasonably and I still enjoy my pupils, my garden and my grandchildren's photos. I'm not hopeless and I haven't thought about ending my life. I want my life, I just want it on my terms."
Ideas, Concerns, Expectations
Gating note: Philippa does not offer these unless the doctor asks what she thinks, what worries her or what she hopes for.
- ●Ideas: She believes that if the doctor writes "no ventilator" in her records, every hospital and ambulance crew will see it and be bound by it. She thinks it is a simple note rather than a formal document. "You just put it in my file, and that's that, doesn't it?"
- ●Concerns: Her greatest fear is being kept alive but locked in, unable to communicate or to move, and becoming a burden. She fears Emrys would end up as that man's wife did. She also worries that in an emergency, before anyone has read her notes, someone will simply put her on a machine. "I'd rather die than be trapped inside my own body for years. And Emrys would never say stop."
- ●Expectations: She wants a clear written record today and wants it respected. She does not want a long discussion and is a little wary that she will be talked out of it. "I've made my mind up. I'd just like it sorted so I can stop thinking about it."
If Asked: Her Wishes in More Detail
Gating note: Philippa gives these only when asked.
- ●If asked about the mask at night: "If it helped me sleep or stopped me being breathless, I might try it. I don't know. I didn't understand that was a different thing. I'd want to be able to stop it."
- ●If asked about resuscitation: "I haven't thought about it. If my heart stopped suddenly I'm honestly not sure. Emrys would want me to have everything. I'd want to hear what the chances really are."
- ●If asked about hospital: "I'd rather be at home with the dog, but I'd go in if it was something that could be fixed."
- ●If asked what matters most: "Being able to talk to my family, to think clearly and to be myself. If I couldn't communicate, I wouldn't want to be kept going."
- ●If asked whether anyone has pressured her: "No. Lowri thinks I'm being too fast. Emrys won't discuss it. This is entirely mine."
- ●If asked whether she has talked to the MND team: "Not about this. The specialist nurse left me a leaflet on planning ahead and I haven't read it."
- ●If the doctor checks she understands what she is deciding: She can explain in her own words that she is asking not to be ventilated even though she might die as a result, and that she knows she can change her mind.
If Asked: Medical History and Medications
Gating note: Philippa answers these plainly when asked.
- ●Other health problems: "My thyroid is underactive and I take levothyroxine. Nothing else. No heart or lung problems."
- ●Medicines: "Riluzole twice a day and levothyroxine. No other tablets or supplements."
- ●Allergies: "None."
- ●Smoking and alcohol: "Never smoked. A glass of wine on Saturdays."
- ●Who would speak for her: "Emrys, I suppose, but he would never say stop. Lowri is more practical."
- ●Previous plans or documents: "I have a will. I haven't done anything about power of attorney, and I've never heard of a document refusing treatment. Nobody at the clinic has talked to me about resuscitation."
- ●Palliative care: "Not involved so far. I assumed that was for later."
Social History and Lifestyle Impact
- ●Home: Emrys does most of the cooking and the lifting. He is anxious and avoids the subject: "Don't be morbid," he says.
- ●Family: Lowri is a primary school teacher with two young children. Ianto is in Australia and is arranging a visit. They know the diagnosis but not her views on ventilation.
- ●Support: Specialist MND nurse by phone, a private physiotherapist once a month, a neighbour who walks the dog on bad days. No carers yet.
- ●Availability: Free any weekday. Emrys could come to a longer appointment.
If Asked: Associated Symptoms
Gating note: Philippa answers these only when asked. Every one is negative unless stated.
- ●If asked about breathlessness, waking breathless, headaches, or sleepiness: "No to all of those."
- ●If asked about choking, coughing on food, or speech changes: "No. My speech is fine."
- ●If asked about memory, personality change or concentration: "No. I'm as sharp as ever, that's the cruel part."
- ●If asked about thoughts of harming herself: "No. I want to live as well as I can."
Responses to Management (The Negotiation Phase)
- ●If the doctor explains what an advance decision is and what makes it legally binding (written, signed, witnessed, and stating that it applies even if life is at risk):
- ●Reaction: Surprised, then practical. "So a note from you isn't enough?" She is reassured to hear that it can be made without a solicitor and that she can change it. "My signature is getting poor. Would that matter?" Told that someone can sign in her presence and at her direction: "Good. I'd like to get it done soon."
- ●If the doctor explains the difference between invasive ventilation and a mask, and offers to tailor the document:
- ●Reaction: Thoughtful. "I really did think they were all the same." She says she would refuse a tube in the neck and being kept on a machine permanently, but would like to be able to try a mask if it eased symptoms. If pushed to decide the mask question now: "Can I think about it and talk to the nurse?"
- ●If the doctor explains that it is different from a decision about resuscitation and that a ReSPECT form records preferences and clinician recommendations:
- ●Reaction: Surprised. "I thought no machine and no resuscitation were the same." She is willing to discuss CPR later but not to decide today. "Can we do that with the MND team? I'd like proper information on the chances."
- ●If the doctor suggests involving Emrys and Lowri:
- ●Reaction: Hesitant. "Emrys will say I'm giving up." If the doctor offers to sit down with them or suggests she tell them first: "Maybe I could bring them to the next appointment. I'd rather he heard it from me." She agrees to her wishes being shared with the MND team.
- ●If the doctor offers to ask the MND nurse and palliative care team to help, and to record her wishes in the notes now:
- ●Reaction: Relieved. "That's all I wanted, really. Someone to take me seriously." If told that until the document is complete it may not be binding in an emergency: "Then let's do it quickly. What happens if I end up in hospital before then?"
- ●If the doctor discusses power of attorney:
- ●Reaction: Curious. "Emrys would be the person, I suppose, but he'd never refuse anything." If told that a power of attorney made after the advance decision could affect it: "Then I'll need advice on the order. I'll ask the nurse."
Mark Scheme
Domain 1: Data Gathering and Diagnosis
Domain 2: Clinical Management and Medical Complexity
Domain 3: Relating to Others
Clinical Learning Points
The Core Dilemma and the Model Plan
- ●Philippa, 61, has limb onset motor neurone disease (MND) with normal lung function, and wants it "in writing" that she will never be put on a ventilator. The easy responses are both wrong: to write a line in the notes and call it done, or to defer entirely to neurology. The station tests whether the candidate turns a clear request into a valid, well informed plan without overriding or steering her.
- ●The model plan has six parts. Explore what she means by a machine and why she wants it now. Confirm she has capacity and respect her right to refuse. Explain the difference between a mask and invasive ventilation, so that her refusal says what she means. Explain what makes an advance decision to refuse treatment (ADRT) valid and binding, and how it differs from a decision about resuscitation and from a ReSPECT form. Involve the MND team and palliative care. Record her wishes today, share them with her consent, and arrange a prompt follow up to complete the document.
- ●Acceptable alternatives: the GP drafting the ADRT with her at a longer follow up within two weeks, or asking the MND nurse or specialist palliative care team to help her write it, provided the GP records her wishes now and owns the follow up. Starting ReSPECT first and completing the ADRT second is also reasonable. A candidate who raises resuscitation and defers the decision to a later conversation with the MND team has done well.
Capacity and the Right to Refuse
- ●The Mental Capacity Act 2005 presumes capacity. Philippa understands her diagnosis, can retain and weigh the information and communicates a consistent choice, so she has capacity. A capacitous person may refuse any treatment, including life sustaining treatment, even if that may shorten life.
- ●Capacity is decision specific and can change. This is why NICE NG42 (MND, 2016, last updated 2019) advises thinking about advance care planning earlier when communication, cognition or capacity are expected to worsen. Some people with MND develop cognitive or behavioural change, and her handwriting is already declining.
- ●Respecting autonomy does not mean ending the conversation. Check mood and that nobody is pressuring her. A wish made after a distressing documentary should be explored, not assumed settled, but low days without hopelessness or thoughts of self harm do not remove capacity.
Clarifying What She Is Refusing
- ●Philippa assumes all ventilation is the same. It is not. Non invasive ventilation (NIV) is delivered through a mask, usually starting at night, and in MND is mainly used to relieve symptoms of breathing muscle weakness such as breathlessness, poor sleep and morning headaches. Invasive ventilation is delivered through a tube in the neck (tracheostomy) and can sustain life for years.
- ●NG42 advises discussing NIV at an appropriate time and in a sensitive manner, including soon after diagnosis, and explaining that NIV can be stopped at any time. A refusal worded as "no machine of any kind" may stop her receiving a mask she would welcome. The document can refuse invasive ventilation, or specify the circumstances in which she would or would not accept NIV, or accept a trial with the right to stop. Do not steer her either way. Offer information and let her decide, and suggest she talks it through with the MND respiratory team.
What Makes an Advance Decision Valid
- ●Under sections 24 to 26 of the Mental Capacity Act, a valid and applicable ADRT is legally binding and takes precedence over best interests decisions. She must be 18 or over with capacity when she makes it. It must specify the treatment and the circumstances in which it applies.
- ●If it covers life sustaining treatment, it must be in writing, signed by her (or by another person in her presence and at her direction), witnessed, and include a statement that it applies even if her life is at risk. No solicitor or special form is required, and the GP can help word, write down or witness it (the witness is not certifying capacity). Her failing handwriting is therefore a practical reason to complete it soon, and a signature by someone else at her direction remains valid.
- ●It is not valid if she withdraws it, creates a later lasting power of attorney (LPA) for health and welfare covering the same treatment, or acts inconsistently with it. She can change or withdraw it at any time while she has capacity. A verbal wish or a line in the notes should guide best interests decisions but is not a valid ADRT for life sustaining treatment.
ADRT, DNACPR, ReSPECT and LPA: Four Different Things
- ●An ADRT is the patient's own legally binding refusal of specified treatment. It does not cover resuscitation unless she says so.
- ●A do not attempt cardiopulmonary resuscitation (DNACPR) decision concerns CPR. It is a clinical decision made after discussion with the patient, which is not the same as her refusing a ventilator. Philippa is unsure about CPR, and this uncertainty must be respected. Do not create a DNACPR order on the strength of this appointment.
- ●ReSPECT (Recommended Summary Plan for Emergency Care and Treatment) records her preferences and the clinician's recommendations for emergency care and is not legally binding (Resuscitation Council UK). It is useful for ambulance crews and out of hours services, and can record her wish to avoid invasive ventilation, hospital admission preferences and preferred place of care. It can be completed with the MND team once she has had time to think about CPR.
- ●An LPA for health and welfare lets a chosen person decide for her when she lacks capacity. If made after the ADRT and covering the same treatment, it can invalidate the ADRT, so the order and wording need thought and the document should be reviewed.
Timing, Team and Triggers
- ●NG42 recommends offering advance care planning at diagnosis and at trigger points: a significant change in respiratory function, or when gastrostomy or NIV are planned. It recommends discussing ADRTs, DNACPR and LPA, ensuring the plan is available when needed (for example on the Summary Care Record), involving the MND multidisciplinary team, and bringing in specialist palliative care at the right time.
- ●She has normal lung function and no respiratory symptoms, so nothing is urgent clinically. The urgency is her hand function and the fact that the next clinic is three months away. Ask about breathlessness, orthopnoea, morning headaches and daytime sleepiness. These are the features that mean the ventilation discussion is becoming real.
- ●Phone or write to the MND specialist nurse so that information she is given is consistent and accurate. Palliative care is not only for the end of life.
Recording, Sharing and Review
- ●Record her wishes today in the notes, clearly marked as her stated preferences and not yet a valid ADRT. With her consent, share them with the MND team and make them visible to urgent care, for example through the Summary Care Record or local shared care record. Once the ADRT is complete, keep a copy in her notes, give her copies, and make sure her family and the MND team know where it is.
- ●Until the ADRT is complete, tell her honestly that in an emergency her stated wishes would inform best interests decisions but may not be binding. This is the reason to complete it promptly, not a reason to refuse help today.
- ●Review it regularly and when her condition changes, if she starts NIV or a gastrostomy, or if she changes her mind.
Communication Points
- ●Begin with the documentary and her fear of being trapped. Her real values are being able to talk to her family and to think clearly, and naming them makes the plan easier to write.
- ●Use plain words: "a mask that helps you breathe at night" and "a tube in the neck that breathes for you". Give the legal requirements in small pieces and ask her to say them back.
- ●Be honest that a note alone is not enough, without making her feel refused. Offer a clear next step and date.
- ●Involve Emrys at her pace. His refusal to discuss the subject is common in couples and is a reason to offer a joint meeting with her agreement. Signpost the MND Association and carer support.
Common Mistakes in This Station
- ●Writing "never to be ventilated" in the notes and telling her it is now legally binding.
- ●Telling her only the neurologist can do this, or arguing her out of her decision.
- ●Treating all ventilation as one thing and never mentioning the mask and its symptom benefit.
- ●Completing a DNACPR order, or discussing resuscitation as if it were the same decision as refusing a ventilator.
- ●Presenting ReSPECT as a legal document, or leaving out the witness and the "even if life is at risk" statement.
- ●Making no plan for the interval before the document is complete, or offering no follow up.
- ●Not exploring mood, pressure or her understanding, or failing to involve the MND team and family at her pace.
Mapped to the RCGP curriculum topic: People at the End of Life.
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